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Meaningful and Distinctive Conversations

February 4, 2013, in Articles > Baha'i Life, by

Over the past few decades, the Universal House of Justice (the elected international body which guides the work of the global Baha’i community) has outlined a vision of action for Baha’is that includes a number of separate but interrelated core activities: the gathering together of friends for the purpose of sharing prayers and reading writings of various religious traditions, the intentional study of the sacred writings of the Baha’i Faith, programs for the spiritual education of children, and groups designed to allow pre-youth to explore themes of spiritual import and engage in service activities together.

Given the importance of these core activities to the overall efforts of the Baha’i community, it seems prudent to discuss a concept that the Universal House of Justice describes as one of the primary impetuses behind all of these activities: engaging in “meaningful and distinctive conversations” with our friends, acquaintances, colleagues, and co-workers.

So what exactly does it mean to engage in “meaningful and distinctive conversations”? Why is it important to do so? And what are some ways we can become more mindful of our everyday speech?

While this idea has received special emphasis from the Universal House of Justice in its recent messages, in many ways this concept has been discussed by all of the central figures of the Baha’i Faith. Baha’u’llah in particular has a number of passages in which He describes the importance of speech. The following passage is one of the most interesting of Baha’u’llah’s descriptions:

Every word is endowed with a spirit, therefore the speaker or expounder should carefully deliver his words at the appropriate time and place, for the impression which each word maketh is clearly evident and perceptible. The Great Being saith: One word may be likened unto fire, another unto light, and the influence which both exert is manifest in the world.

Baha’u’llah, Tablets of Baha’u’llah, p. 172

I cannot even begin to comprehend exactly what Baha’u’llah means when He says that every word is endowed with a spirit. But even so, it is clear that our speech has a powerful influence on the hearts and minds of those around us. It’s for this reason that Baha’u’llah frequently discusses the deleterious effects of the more negative forms of speech. In different places He describes the tongue as a “smoldering fire” and encourages us to refrain from idle talk and gossip. (Falen D’Cruz has an excellent post in Baha’i Blog on backbiting for those interested in a more thorough treatment of this topic.)

But engaging in meaningful and distinctive conversations requires more than simply refraining from gossip and backbiting. In other words, one can say that refraining from negative speech is a necessary but not a sufficient precondition of such conversations. From my perspective, these conversations require us to pay attention to both the substance of our discussions as well as the method by which we delivery what we have to say.

I find many of the Faith’s teachings on the latter point particularly interesting. I think we often assume that those who speak with the greatest passion, conviction, and unflinching resolve are the most influential in conversations. However, Baha’u’llah tells us that the truly wise and enlightened should primarily speak

…with words as mild as milk [and] with utmost leniency and forbearance so that the sweetness of his words may induce everyone to attain that which befitteth man’s station.

Baha’u’llah, Tablets of Baha’u’llah, p. 172

Even if we are having conversations with people who we vehemently disagree with on whatever the topic may be, engaging in fierce debates and verbal sparring matches rarely results in the promotion of mutual respect and understanding that can serve as the foundation of collective and unified action.

Similarly, the Baha’i Faith teaches us that we should be particularly mindful of the beliefs and capacity of those we are engaged in conversation with. As Baha’u’llah states:

Not everything that a man knoweth can be disclosed, nor can everything that he can disclose be regarded as timely, nor can every timely utterance be considered as suited to the capacity of those who hear it.

Baha’u’llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u’llah, p. 176

Even the teachings and principles of the Baha’i Faith were only gradually revealed to society as our collective capacity to understand certain ideas developed over time, so we should remember this fact when discussing spiritual topics with those whose beliefs may be significantly different than ours. There is no point in trying to convince someone of an idea that they are not ready to consider or able to understand (I hope it’s clear that I’m using “able” here in the sense of their exposure to certain ideas in the past that allows them to engage in particular conversations in the present, rather than their innate “ability” to comprehend). Instead, we should attempt to find points of mutual interest and understanding and begin our conversations there.

Just as we must continue to refine our ability to discuss our ideas in the most effective ways possible, we must also continue to find opportunities to elevate our discussions to the realm of spiritual import. In this sense, engaging in meaningful and distinctive conversations requires us to reframe and re-imagine everyday subjects: to find the profound in the mundane, the significant in the trivial, the unifying in the controversial.

One of my favorite passages in the recent messages from the Universal House of Justice made me re-think the way in which I tell people about this amazing Faith that I care about so deeply. I used to believe that my primarily goal should be to teach people about the Revelation of Baha’u’llah, to clearly elucidate its central principles, and to convince them of its truth. The Ridvan 2010 message made me look at teaching in a completely new way. In the words of the the Universal House of Justice:

Whether the first contact with such newly found friends elicits an invitation for them to enroll in the Baha’i community or to participate in one of its activities is not an overwhelming concern. More important is that every soul feel welcome to join the community in contributing to the betterment of society, commencing a path of service to humanity…

This obviously does not mean that we should not tell people about the person of Baha’u’llah or inform them of the central principles of His revelation. However, what seems most crucial is that we elevate our daily conversations in order to find others who have similar visions of the most effective ways to spiritually transform our communities. Because people with this vision come from every racial, national, ethnic, socio-economic, and religious background, we should always be attentive to opportunities to engage in meaningful and distinctive conversations.


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Matt Giani

Matt Giani is a research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin. His research focuses on stratification and social mobility in education, with an emphasis on helping underprivileged students make successful transitions to college after high school. Matt draws his inspiration from his exuberant daughter Clara, his incredible wife Shadi, and the Baha'i teachings.

Discussion 10 Comments

It is very important to corelate the current events in the world and people’s concerns with the teachings of our Faith.
If we only talk about us, our activities, and ignore the world and society around us, we may be seen as looking as having a self-centered message.
A meaningful and distinctive conversations has to establish that correlation and touch the hearts.

Marco Oliveira (February 2, 2013 at 10:25 PM)

I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO MASTER THIS ABILITY, but my way of communication is that of “A CODIAC BEAR!”
I would rather watch and study the environment and keep or quiet or joke around. I want to change. is there any seminars and/or material that can better my awareness?

Sergio (February 2, 2013 at 5:09 AM)

You ask a difficult question, Sergio, at least there are probably many answers, and many internet sites with their philosophy and psychology, their words of wisdom and their religious perspectives, for you to try on for size. Part of the difficulty of your question is that it has many answers depending on whom you ask and what you read. In some ways one’s personality is a constant from teens to old age; in other ways there are significant changes from 5 to 15 years old, from 15 to 30, from 30 to 60, and 60 into old age. Other factors like: (i) who is the person you live with, and what are they like; (ii) are you living with your family and in your home country, or are you pioneering in a strange place in a strange job, and (iii) how is your health, your energy levels, your knowledge of the world, of life, and of the person to whom you are talking. There are a complex of factors and no simple answers, Sergio. Some say it’s a matter of good luck and good management; others say prayer and meditation help. It’s all part of the great journey of life, Sergio, and I wish you well in your journey.-Ron Price, Tasmania

RonPrice (February 2, 2013 at 3:27 AM)

I am involved with a project called “Elevate” which seeks to develop and make available a resource of stimulating questions that could give rise to meaningful conversation: the questions themselves enable participants to explore their own responses, learn from others, and develop generic skills in higher-level discourse and consultation. In addition to these “basic” questions”, the project is developing a series of “themes” on topics of social concern, both currrent and emerging, and will be suitable for people of all traditions of faith and philosophy.

You are invited to suggest questions to enrich and deepen the value of this resource:

Long time since you had a decent conversation, and yearn for some relief from vacuous banality?
ELEVATE invites you to contribute questions to stimulate meaningful conversations about issues of social concern and life in general around the water cooler, at dinner, in the car, with family, friends and community.
This is your chance to help humanity think more deeply by raising the standard of social discourse.
All suggestions however well written or hastily scribbled are welcome:
[email protected]

Charles (March 3, 2013 at 2:53 AM)

Is it possible to get the materials already put together. The ” Elevate” project sounds wonderful and I would love to know more about it.

Morella Menon (May 5, 2016 at 4:31 PM)

[…] prosperous world civilization. With kindly tongues, beautified with truthfulness, through meaningful and distinctive conversations, and with deeds that seek to reflect our noblest conceptions and aspirations, we build. […]

I want to open the floor to discussing the question of how to master the ability of initiation meaningful conversations. Don’t worry about my specific circumstances just share insights from your life. Please don’t shoot me down like you did with Sergio.

Russell (July 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM)

Hi Russell, I don’t see how Sergio was ‘shot down’ anywhere…?

Naysan (August 8, 2013 at 8:16 AM)

[…] You can already see the result of this emphasis on memorization amongst those who have been involved in the sequence of courses and I’ve personally noticed a significant shift over the last several years of the way in which we’re all using the Baha’i Writings in our everyday speech, and this I beleive has had a direct effect on our ability to engage in meaningful and distinctive conversations. […]

The skill of active listening would, I think, be an essential element in having a meaningful conversation. How do we know, from all the wonderful teachings, which to choose, if we don’t know the talants, inclinations, hopes and ideas of individuals; their concerns or challenges? In health care, the practitioner takes a thorough history before making the diagnoses and this requires active listening. Regarding teaching ‘Abdu’l-Bahá wrote, “First diagnose the disease and identify the malady, then prescribe the remedy, for such is the perfect method of the skilful physician.” ( “Selections from the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá”, Sec. 214, pp. 268-69) In this context, through active and appreciative listening we may be able to better guage the, “spiritual receptivity of the soul with whom we come in contact…” Having thus built a relationship based on trust and mutual understanding we may find the goal of elevating the conversation more easily attainable.

Michael Derry (November 11, 2016 at 2:44 PM)

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